Do not land here

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Do not land here

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<div id="1585097609"><i>Knowing where you are unwelcome</i><br><p>"Kevin Carter" <<a href="http://ozreport.com/emailer.php?toName= ... kevinc></a>> writes:</p><p class="BN">Making the most of my time on lockdown I came up with something cool I thought was worth sharing.</p><p class="BN">Years ago an ace PG pilot Mike Jobin put together a KML file with a long list of possible LZ's, and most importantly, do not land areas up and down the Colorado Front Range.  I made a quick converter to generate an Open Air Airspace file from that data so I could load it on my Naviter Blade.  Now I can see and avoid the DNLs (do not lands) while exploring some of these routes for the first time.</p><p class="BN">Just in case my head is really far up my a-- anytime I'm in the air, I also set Airspace altitudes so the warning alarms would alert only when appropriate. Airspace floors were all set to SFC (surface). All the ceilings were set proportional to the airspace size.  I set the ceilings to SFC + width divided by 10 for a conservative 10 to 1 glide ratio.  So if the alarm goes off for a big DNL area like our local state park, turn around because you won't be able to glide to a good field out the other side!  That is important here because in most cases there isn't a clear visual indicator for those boundaries. Everything is brown and looks landable.  On the flip side, with altitudes set this way, you don't hear a peep from airspace alarms when thermaling or gliding high over DNLs that aren't a factor.</p><p class="BN">I included a screenshot of what it looks like on my map page. DNL's are defined as type R in the Airspace file and I left that colored blue on my Blade. Landable fields are defined as W which stands for wave window so I set my color to green for those. Lastly, emergency PG only LZs are type Q and colored yellow.</p><p class="BN"><img border="0" src="../pub/images/IMG_20200322_125725.jpg" width="640" height="657"></p></div>
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The Oz Report wrote:<div id="1585097609">…Just in case my head is really far up my a-- …
3 letters starting with A. I would say, "Art"
Brilliant way to relax, enjoy and stay out of trouble.
I've thought about this for my 6030.
Another of your great ideas!
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NMERider wrote: ...
3 letters starting with A. I would say, "Art"
...
More than 3 ; but I'm going with : "Awesome" !!

Back in the 80's , i had a gun pointed at me, for landing in a Bad spot ; that
happened at Big Black, Southern Cal. The owner started out a really nice guy
and even set-up party's for us ; then he went Nuts ! :(
I think, alcohol, got him ?
I kinda chose to remember the Dude , when he was , (the Nice guy) ; anybody
can go off the deep-end !

Bille
GOOD RUSH !!!
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The Oz Report wrote:<div id="1585097609"><i>Knowing where you are unwelcome</i><br><p>"Kevin Carter" <<a href="http://ozreport.com/emailer.php?toName= ... kevinc></a>> writes:</p><p class="BN">Making the most of my time on lockdown I came up with something cool I thought was worth sharing.</p><p class="BN">Years ago an ace PG pilot Mike Jobin put together a KML file with a long list of possible LZ's, and most importantly, do not land areas up and down the Colorado Front Range.  I made a quick converter to generate an Open Air Airspace file from that data so I could load it on my Naviter Blade.  Now I can see and avoid the DNLs (do not lands) while exploring some of these routes for the first time.</p><p class="BN">Just in case my head is really far up my a-- anytime I'm in the air, I also set Airspace altitudes so the warning alarms would alert only when appropriate. Airspace floors were all set to SFC (surface). All the ceilings were set proportional to the airspace size.  I set the ceilings to SFC + width divided by 10 for a conservative 10 to 1 glide ratio.  So if the alarm goes off for a big DNL area like our local state park, turn around because you won't be able to glide to a good field out the other side!  That is important here because in most cases there isn't a clear visual indicator for those boundaries. Everything is brown and looks landable.  On the flip side, with altitudes set this way, you don't hear a peep from airspace alarms when thermaling or gliding high over DNLs that aren't a factor.</p><p class="BN">I included a screenshot of what it looks like on my map page. DNL's are defined as type R in the Airspace file and I left that colored blue on my Blade. Landable fields are defined as W which stands for wave window so I set my color to green for those. Lastly, emergency PG only LZs are type Q and colored yellow.]

Wow. I "make the most of my time on lockdown" drinking beer and watching porn. What you did is amazing, intelligent, helps prevent conflicts and accidents, and is just downright considerate. It is a good thing that I have finally just accepted the facts that I am simply too lazy and selfish to attempt anything like it. A very good thing. Because otherwise, I'd have to deal with a lot of guilt or become a decent human being. And it's always been so hard for me to be decent and humane. The lesson here? Acceptance is a very important ingredient for a happy life.
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