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<div id="1561467715"><i>The wavy jet stream</i><br><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... ></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... 22c2"><img border="0" src="../pub/images/DO44N7EWAQI6TGQW3RKR5JNEHM.jpg" width="640" height="427" style="width:auto;height:auto;max-width:100%"></a></p><p class="BN">At Arapahoe Basin, so much snow has fallen since the winter that it has stayed opened for skiing on weekends through the month. It declared Saturday a powder day after a fresh coating of two inches. The resort plans to open again next weekend and possibly over the July 4 weekend, its blog says.</p><p class="BN">The snow was triggered by an unusually cold pool of air at high altitudes over the western United States combined with a vigorous weather disturbance that ejected out of the Southwest.</p><p class="BN">While the snow may have some in the Colorado high country craving warmer temperatures, the onslaught of precipitation since January has ended a costly drought in the state, and the elevated snowpack and runoff are expected to lower Colorado's wildfire risk through the summer.</p><p>It's been cool here in Boise all June with high temperatures for the most part in the seventies and eighties even sixties.</p></div>
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Dark Green Doomsayers
By George F. Will
Sunday, February 15, 2009

In the 1970s, "a major cooling of the planet" was "widely considered inevitable" because it was "well established" that the Northern Hemisphere's climate "has been getting cooler since about 1950" (New York Times, May 21, 1975). Although some disputed that the "cooling trend" could result in "a return to another ice age" (the Times, Sept. 14, 1975), others anticipated "a full-blown 10,000-year ice age" involving "extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation" (Science News, March 1, 1975, and Science magazine, Dec. 10, 1976, respectively). The "continued rapid cooling of the Earth" (Global Ecology, 1971) meant that "a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery" (International Wildlife, July 1975). "The world's climatologists are agreed" that we must "prepare for the next ice age" (Science Digest, February 1973). Because of "ominous signs" that "the Earth's climate seems to be cooling down," meteorologists were "almost unanimous" that "the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century," perhaps triggering catastrophic famines (Newsweek cover story, "The Cooling World," April 28, 1975). Armadillos were fleeing south from Nebraska, heat-seeking snails were retreating from Central European forests, the North Atlantic was "cooling down about as fast as an ocean can cool," glaciers had "begun to advance" and "growing seasons in England and Scandinavia are getting shorter" (Christian Science Monitor, Aug. 27, 1974).

As global levels of sea ice declined last year, many experts said this was evidence of man-made global warming. Since September, however, the increase in sea ice has been the fastest change, either up or down, since 1979, when satellite record-keeping began. According to the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979. According to the U.N. World Meteorological Organization, there has been no recorded global warming for more than a decade, or one-third of the span since the global cooling scare.

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Yes I remember when I used to ask questions in class starting in the
6th grade.

What would an Ice age be like?

The movie “Ice Station Zebra” hit theaters in 1968 then aired on TV through the seventies.
Great movie..

After the Ice scares it was Rachel Carson’s “Silent Spring”.
The birds and the bees were doomed then us…

Nuclear bomb drills in the classroom, duck and cover…
Why don’t we practice that anymore?

The year 2000 came and went and our computer programs did not kill us.

2012 has past far enough even with the Myan calendars potential errors
that I finally gave up the survival cave.. Where is planet Nibiru?
Just kidding about the survival cave, Never had one…

But seriously there are concerns..

Solar flare is a serious threat…
Super Nova explosion of a near enough star could end life.
Asteroid impacting earth anywhere, real bad.
What would a pole shift do to modern civilization?
A large volcanic eruption could kill billions..

Seems silly to give so much attention to CO2/plant food
when 5 other threats are way worse and way quicker…

Oh, what about the Ice Age thing?
It has not actually gone away, we are just preoccupied with so much else.
Like this:

California’s “perma-drought” has been erased
June 24, 2019 by H.B. Schmidt
“Much to the surprise of meteorologists.”

“Enter the winter of 2018/19. Not only has California had one of its wettest winters
on record, but its “perma-drought” has been erased much to the surprise of
meteorologists and climate scientists. What’s not surprising is how the complicit
media has given far less fanfare to what is extremely good news.”

June 23rd
“Snowing in Bozeman one day before summer:
Snowfall was reported in the Bozeman, Montana, area on Thursday.”

June 25th
“This year’s record-breaking winter dumped almost 100 inches of snow on Eau Claire (Wisconsin).
For one part of the city, the snow still isn’t gone.”

“In Wausau, the city had to bring in heavy equipment to break a snow pile apart to
make room for an expanding farmer’s market.”

“Steamboat – More than 2 feet of new snow over the weekend
June 25, 2019 by Robert
Steamboat Springs, Colorado – 25 Jun 2019 – “We’re still waiting for all of the earlier
snow to melt,” reporter complains. And only 7 days until July.”

“Africa Kenya’s Bitting Cold
26 Jun 2019 (Excerpts) – “Kenyan farmers have to contend with high cost of production
as a biting cold weather hits several parts of the east African nation. “The cold weather,
which normally kicks off in July, started in late May, worsening an already bad situation
for farmers after the March-May rains failed.”

Global warming, hard pill to swallow..


“Not by Fire But by Ice”
"The next ice age could begin any day! Next week, next month, next year, it's not a question
of if, only when. One day you'll wake up--or won't wake up, rather -- buried beneath nine
stories of snow as the climate of Greenland descends on Canada, Britain, Norway and most
of the north..practically overnight. It's all part of a dependable, predictable, natural cycle
that returns like clockwork every 11,500 years.? “


“NOT BY FIRE, BUT BY ICE
“By John Polomny Posted November 28, 2018 In Uncategorized 1 2
I wrote earlier this year about the greatest contrarian play of all time. The fact that the earth
is in fact cooling and not warming. One of the people I profiled was Dr. Valentina Zharkova’s
work on global cooling and lower solar activity.

Her models have run at a 93% accuracy and her findings suggest a Super Grand Solar Minimum
is on the cards beginning 2020 and running for 350-400 years.

The last time we had a little ice age only two magnetic fields of the sun went out of phase.”

“This time, all four magnetic fields are going out of phase.”


Food for thought. Consider climate scientists are surprised the CA drought is so quickly over.

They have been wrong since the 1970’s and keep proving it..


Cold is far worse for us than a hotter climate is...


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Ok…one last try to enlighten…40+ year old newspaper articles or " science articles" written 50yrs ago- are you serious, that is so comically biased, a true denier and proud of it too..As for rants about anything but serious argument for your denier " cause" , the best any deniers will do is cherry pick because its about politics for your lot , not science. Climate change is about increased warming , especially relevant since the industrial era and the warming increasing and turning the weather into chaos. Heavy snowstorms out of season is what i might expect with this extra energy ( heat) and god knows what craziness yet to come. The weather systems have become erratic , its not going to be good for the farmers,the fishermen, the low lying countries / cities, the environment etc , the droughts, the floods, the thunderstorms, the frosts, etc…everyone , everywhere will suffer, the potential for misery becoming anger and then conflict will not be limited inside borders… IT is not the start of an ice age because of one crazy storm, please read some unbiased and methodically researched articles. One good thing to come from this discussion, i have learn't a hell of a lot about what this increasing heat, caused by anthropological warming and helped by deforestation is doing.Denied by vested interests and spreading disinformation by the same and for whatever reason espoused by mostly right wing media. You tell us the climate is cooling..wtf, here is a web page to study, i mean really read it, scroll through the comments up to present day. If you enjoy your present way of life,( unless we ALL change,) it won't get any better..
https://skepticalscience.com/Has-Arctic ... overed.htm
We are all in the gutter,but some of us are looking at the stars. MT.

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Col.r wrote:Ok…one last try to enlighten…40+ year old newspaper articles or " science articles" written 50yrs ago- are you serious, that is so comically biased, a true denier and proud of it too..As for rants about anything but serious argument for your denier " cause" , the best any deniers will do is cherry pick because its about politics for your lot , not science. Climate change is about increased warming , especially relevant since the industrial era and the warming increasing and turning the weather into chaos. Heavy snowstorms out of season is what i might expect with this extra energy ( heat) and god knows what craziness yet to come. The weather systems have become erratic , its not going to be good for the farmers,the fishermen, the low lying countries / cities, the environment etc , the droughts, the floods, the thunderstorms, the frosts, etc…everyone , everywhere will suffer, the potential for misery becoming anger and then conflict will not be limited inside borders… IT is not the start of an ice age because of one crazy storm, please read some unbiased and methodically researched articles. One good thing to come from this discussion, i have learn't a hell of a lot about what this increasing heat, caused by anthropological warming and helped by deforestation is doing.Denied by vested interests and spreading disinformation by the same and for whatever reason espoused by mostly right wing media. You tell us the climate is cooling..wtf, here is a web page to study, i mean really read it, scroll through the comments up to present day. If you enjoy your present way of life,( unless we ALL change,) it won't get any better..
https://skepticalscience.com/Has-Arctic ... overed.htm

Yes, erratic weather and single year anomalies do not make a trend. Agree

40 year old news articles are based on 10’s of years of data from the same climate scientists
then predicting a looming Ice Age. Solar cycles over hundreds and thousands of years.
Same scientists now yelling Fire! 20 years later, We are burning up.. All man caused...Not.

Their track record is not equal to their alarm.


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