Still Drought in California

[Ben Reese]

Yea Blind it's time to move on to some more important stuff
than correcting your perceptions that Republicans are just
rich white people over 50. At 1st you said it was over 60ðÿ¤”.

Yea there are not enough over 60 people to win an election.
If you want to be honest and accept that allot of previous Obama
voters did not vote for Hilliary then you can figure out why Trump
really won the election. It's really the Dems over 50 who just
can't accept that younger people do have brains and used them
to vote.

Here was a prediction based on historical Republican voters.
If you don't want to read it then here is a summary.

Working class whites make up the largest segment of Trump supporters.
Working class whites are not rich or over 50. Republicans don't win with four
year white college professionals. They tend to be rich compared to working class.
Why it matters, working class whites 44% largest ever voted for Mr. Clinton.
Dems did not complain then did they? Working class whites vote the pay check..

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... cs/506714/

""Trump faces unprecedented resistance among whites holding at least a
four-year college degree.""

""Republicans almost always now win working-class whites. The only Democrat
to carry them since 1980 was Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and he never attracted
more than 44 percent of them. (That was enough for a slim plurality, though, because
many working-class whites supported Ross Perot’s third-party candidacies.) The real
question for Trump is how far he can push the margin among these voters. In each
election since 2000, exit polls show that the GOP nominee has carried non-college-educated
white voters by at least 17 percentage points; Mitt Romney won them by 26 points, drawing
62 percent of them in 2012. Pre-election polls show that Trump has a strong chance to
extend that advantage. The ultimate mark of success for him would be to rival Ronald
Reagan’s dominant performance in 1984, when he won 66 percent of non-college-educated
whites, beating Walter Mondale among those voters by 32 percentage points. (Whether
Trump can reach that high will likely depend largely on his performance among blue-collar
white women, as discussed below.)

But while Trump has made these inroads among working-class whites, he faces unprecedented
resistance among whites holding at least a four-year college degree. Though Democratic
nominees now routinely run better among whites with a degree than those without one,
none of them have run well enough to actually win most college-educated whites. In fact, no
Democratic nominee in the history of modern polling, dating back to 1952, has ever won most
whites holding a four-year degree or more, according to exit polls and the American National
Election Studies. Hillary Clinton appears poised to break that record: Almost all pre-election
polls have shown her leading among college-educated whites. She seems virtually certain to
at least double, if not triple, the widest Democratic advantage ever among college-educated
white women, which was Gore’s 8 percentage points in 2000. As of Saturday, the ABC
News/Washington Post tracking poll gave her a thumping 25-percentage-point lead with
these women.""

Here is how it really panned out after the prediction..

""One of the strongest predictors of Trump support is the proportion of the population that is
native-born. Relatively few people in the places where Trump is strong are immigrants — and,
as their answers on their ancestry reveal, they very much wear Americanness on their sleeve.""

These polls made me laugh, where Bill Mahar gets his data for jokes..

White, no high school diploma 62%
Living in Mobile homes 54%
66% believe President Obama is a Muslim (Public Policy Polling)
41% are in favor of bombing Agrabah, the fictional country from Aladdin (Public Policy Polling)
50% are angry with the government, compared to 35% of Republican and Republican-leaning
voters (Pew Research Center)

So what this really says is your wrong about Rich white people over 60 or now 50.
Even the most biased polls don't support your demographics of Trump supporters.
It's the poor uneducated masses the Dems pride themselves in that turned against
them.

Remember all is fair in love and war. Politics is both love and war..

Sorry man thems he facts proven by my painful statistics well picked over by
Bill Mahar every night on HBO…ðÿ¤—


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P.S.
We are getting 2 feet of snow this weekend at Lake Tahoe…
Mt Rose ski resort has the most snow ever recorded for a ski resort
more than 53'. Yea feet and more this weekend…❄️ðÿŒ¨ðÿŒ¬

[Blindrodie]

Yeah, 50 or 60 years, not much difference when its' the same outcome

Let's hope your new snow will bring much needed revenue to the area and keep raising all those low water levels.

Too bad it won't help the GOP or Trump now that the EPA is being gutted...


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[Christopher]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... education/

The Trump minority win of the Electoral vote had many contributors- but a majority of the youth-vote can not be counted among them. As the linked Pew survey describes, the Trump vote was predominately- but not exclusively -Male, White, and uneducated. The 2016 election was only the latest vivid example of a system of governance designed to preserve power in the hands of a minority. We started with White male landholders, then the unlanded, perfunctorily included Blacks, then Women- all while contriving hurtles to disproportionately favor certain interests. In so doing, it was assured that the support of the privileged could be leveraged against the broader population, more diverse in identity and interest.

[Ben Reese]

Trump was elected primarily by democrates who voted
Republican or switched parties before the vote. A great
many of the Dem turn coats are home owners.

The white land owners you speak of are in the minority of voters.
They always vote Republican just like most home owners regardless
of race or skin color.. They always get blamed by the Dems…

How you vote is more about being grown up or not???

Take CA, LA county for example.

Quote…
""Center for Housing Studies at Harvard University reveals that Los Angeles actually
has the highest percentage of renters in any major US metro area: 52 percent of
Angelenos were renters in 2012, compared to 35 percent nationwide (and 30 percent
in St. Louis, which has the lowest percentage).""

http://la.curbed.com/2013/12/10/1016595 ... n-the-us-1

I picked CA because as you and the rest of my advasaries in this thread like to brag about
howCA leads the nation as if it was its own country.. So this will be the future unless we
get job growth soon. That my friends is why Trump got elected and got more votes in CA
than any other Republican candidate since Ronald Regan. Good paying jobs make home
owners…

Vote by county Clinton - Trump
Los Angeles. 2,464,364 - 769,743
San Diego 735,476. - 477,766
Orange 609,960. - 507,148
Riverside 373,695. - 333,243
Santa Clara. 511,684. - 144,826
Alameda 514,842. - 95,922
San Bernardino 340,833. - 271,240
Sacramento. 326,023. - 189,789
Contra Costa 319,287. - 115,956
San Francisco. 345,084. - 37,688

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california

Now look how the two big cities voted SF and LA.
Notice the renters vs land owners? You can look
up SF yourself but my guess is it's mostly renters also.

The 52% renters vs home owners in LA was in 2012.
My guess is it's over 55% or more by now.

I will make an educated guess that St. Louis voted for Trump
just based on home owners VS renters. I know enough about
St. Louis to know there is a large black population there.
Enough to make a very big impact on vote count.
I did not check the vote there so go ahead and prove me wrong!!
Home owners regardless of race vote Republican as a larger
percentage than Democrats..

Dems want to keep and make more renters..
Repubs want to keep and make more home owners..

A greater percentage of Repubs are home owners.
A smaller percentage of Dems are home owners.

This is no accident kids..
Kids grow up to be home owners.
Dems don't grow up..

LOL ðÿ˜‚

It's in the numbers and they don't lie…
It's in the NY Times and they don't lie…ðÿ¤¥


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[Blindrodie]

It's in the NY Times and they don't lie…

Didn't your momma ever tell you not to believe everything you read? And she didn't even have an internet!

Over 3 inches of rain here in the last two weeks. Hopin' some of it gets where it needs to go.

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[Christopher]

The white land owners you speak of are in the minority of voters.

I cited historic White land holders as a privileged class at the inception of the Republic, institutionalizing anti-democratic principles- I did not speak to any similar contemporary demographic.

They always vote Republican just like most home owners regardless of race or skin color …{snip}… I will make an educated guess that St. Louis voted for Trump just based on home owners VS renters.

Despite lower turn out in St. Louse than in the the previous 2 general elections, Trump massively lost the city, capturing only 15.72% vs Clinton's 78.68. While accurately labeled a guess, educated it wasn't. Since Ben's partisan screes depend primarily on prejudice buttressed with carelessly picked cherries, I expect he'll cling to that rotten fruit, irrespective of fact.

Trump won the majority of the old vote. He won the majority of the the White Male vote. He won the majority of the uneducated vote. He won the majority of the racist vote. Doubtlessly, those named exist in both parties- though some more plentifully. Take heart- those people do not constitute a majority: the majority rejected his message of regression, partisanship, and hate.

Ben's demagoguery of California, renters, and any one else he despises is an attempt to galvanize folks against each other- to divide according to his prejudice and animus; he bends even the most inopportune topic to his twisted narrative- be it hang gliding or a weather report.

While our climate and country are ravaged by the impacts of industrial and ethical pollution, it's up to each of us to weed out the poisonous seeds planted by the likes of Ben Reese, lest they find fertile ground parched of education. Refutation and statement of fact is the very least we can do to hold back the infection. As this most recent cycle of hate demonstrates, deeply planted seeds remain, waiting to be soaked to life by a fresh flood of ignorance and fear mongering; even after his generation turns to dust, continued progress will require vigilance. The worst part of us, even when uncelebrated, remains, waiting to be unmask.

[Brianscharp]

Take heart- those people do not constitute a majority…

And that's a concern of Congressman Steve King.

…the majority rejected his message of regression, partisanship, and hate.

Somebody else's babies.

[Ben Reese]

Some more facts for Christopher who is by no means a typical
American. He has an agenda opposite of our Constitutional Republic.
He is Muslim activist who lives to undermine this country.

My comments on St. Louis were to make a point and open myself to guessing
wrong. However Donald Trump won Missouri by 30% more votes than a Hilliary.
It was not even close!!!

1,071,068 Democrat votes 31.8%
1,594,511 Republican votes 56.8%

10 electoral votes, which was 1.8 percent of the 538 electoral votes up for grabs and
3.7 percent of the 270 electoral votes needed to win President.

It is almost Cherry season again so here you go.. So go pick the ðÿ’'s
in the link below.. Go ahead bite into them cherries, they will taste
very tart to you Christopher.. Your gonna have to add allot of sweetener
or better said "Spin" to those bowl of tart cherries..

https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_el ... ouri,_2016

It is the cities that push the demographics off the rails. We all know this.
That is the beaty of our Representive Republic in its wisdom of design.
I am referring to the Electoral College which when I was young, I thought
was a bad idea. But the old vote which Christopher hates came up with
that idea during our founding as a country.

Actually mid fifties is not old by today's standard of living. It is mid life.
Old would be 80+ years. I doubt Davis likes being called old all the time.
There are allot of pilots who really are annoyed by that Christopher..
The guys you are calling old could put you out, out run you, out fly you,
out work you, out think you and even out live you… They could out you!!

Christopher, America was founded by an underclass of non property owners,
that is why they left Europe. Same reason you left Turkey because of;
Or is it your wife that left Turkey… because of;

"Quoting you now referring to America" Added "Turkey and bronze…"

"I cited historic Bronze land holders as a privileged class at the inception of the
Ottoman Empire and Turkey institutionalizing anti-democratic principles-
I did not speak to any similar contemporary demographic. "

See Christopher, Turkey and it's history is where your coming from not America and
it's history. And to make my final point about this election is that, without the
previous democratic voters helping Trump win it was not possible for him to be
elected President of the United States of America..

I like how you never acknowledge that fact and it speaks louder than you can scream
about who you are and where your loyalties fall. That is because your loyalties fall flat
and they are DOA…

You twist my message into hate for renters and seems everything I mention I hate..
That is a trick of the left and it does not work anymore. It's played out and even the
Dems that voted for Trump tell you that is a fact.. ðÿ˜‚ LOL No one believes it..

I am going to take your last paragraph above and modify it to fit my view of you.
I will use your words to show I know my advasary as well as needed..

Thank you for such fertile writing…

""While our climate and country are ravaged by the impacts of liberal and ethical pollution,
it's up to each of us to weed out the poisonous seeds planted by the likes of Christopher
(Mavi Gogun), lest they find fertile ground in modern education. Refutation and statement
of fact is the very least we can do to hold back the infection. As this most recent cycle of
hate demonstrates in riots and civil unrest, deeply planted seeds remain, waiting to be
soaked to life by a fresh flood of ignorance and fear mongering; even after his generation
turns to dust, continued progress will require vigilance. The worst part of us, even when
uncelebrated, remains, waiting to be unmasked.""

To show I am not without humor; here are some recent descriptions of Trump voters.

If your house moves but your car doesn't, you may be a Trump voter.

If the diploma hanging in your hallway says "Trucking Institute"
you may be a Trump voter.

If more than one living relative is named after a southern civil war general,
Your a Trump voter.

If your nearest relatives invite you over to the new home to help remove the
wheels, you voted Trump.

If you have ever financed a tattoo then you may be a Trump voter.

If you have to unchain the dog and your wallet to go for a walk and buy a
beer your a Trump voter..

If you mow your lawn and find the stolen barbecue your defiantly a Trump voter.

If you have a formal occasions baseball cap, your a Trump voter.

If your senior year was 6th grade then your likely a Trump voter.

If You can change the oil in your truck without ducking your head,
odds are a Trump voter.

If you think that safe sex is a pillow propped against the headboard,
your a Trump voter.

When you hear "Say No To Crack!" you automatcally pull up your jeans,
then your a Trump voter.

Funny stuff I know, but happy to hear it because it's the sound of victory…

Sane healthy people can laugh at themselves, insane unhealthy people can't laugh
at themselves.


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[Christopher]

My comments on St. Louis were to make a point and open myself to guessing wrong.

Regardless of your purpose or intent, Ben, the instance is emblematic of your dysfunction: fact is always subordinate to your petty prejudice, integrity completely absent, slave to bigotry. I guess at some point you took a look at yourself, decided the work you'd need to do to be a decent human being was greater than your will. I can't imagine what it must mean to come to the twilight of life in that condition, absent hope or desire for redemption.

[Ben Reese]

Christopher, you have absolutely exposed your true self in your comments.
I have completely outed you by your own dissertations and inadequate arguments.
Your idea that Americas Government was only for the privileged is absolutely absurd.
Why are you here if it's so unfair to live here? Your a bigot of old age and only
think young uneducated and inexperienced voters count..

You have decided the work you'd need to do to be a decent human being was greater
than your will. I can't imagine what it must mean to come to the sunrise ðÿŒ… of life
in that condition, absent hope or desire for redemption.

How empty you must really feel..

Here's some cherries to cheer you up.ðÿ’

If you have spent more on your pickup truck than on your education, your a Trump Voter.
If Your mom gives you tips on how to sneak alcohol into sporting events, She is a Trump voter.
If You can tell your age by the number of rings in the bathtub, your a Trump voter.ðÿ’


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